Climate Change IMHO

Thought this was interesting.

I think we all may agree our climate is changing but I tire of being told that my behavior and that of my fellow humans has more than a miniscule impact on natural cycles that predate our presence and will continue after our demise. Interesting research article from PNAS December 30, 2024

122 (2) e2412162121

https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.2412162121

The Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS), a peer reviewed journal of the National Academy of Sciences (NAS), is an authoritative source of high-impact, original research that broadly spans the biological, physical, and social sciences. The journal is global in scope and submission is open to all researchers worldwide.

An excerpt:

Abstract

Climate-driven changes in high-elevation forest distribution and reductions in snow and ice cover have major implications for ecosystems and global water security. In the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem of the Rocky Mountains (United States), recent melting of a high-elevation (3,091 m asl) ice patch exposed a mature stand of whitebark pine (Pinus albicaulis) trees, located ~180 m in elevation above modern treeline, that date to the mid-Holocene (c. 5,950 to 5,440 cal y BP). Here, we used this subfossil wood record to develop tree-ring-based temperature estimates for the upper-elevation climate conditions that resulted in ancient forest establishment and growth and the subsequent regional ice-patch growth and downslope shift of treeline. Results suggest that mid-Holocene forest establishment and growth occurred under warm-season (May-Oct) mean temperatures of 6.2 °C (±0.2 °C), until a multicentury cooling anomaly suppressed temperatures below 5.8 °C, resulting in stand mortality by c. 5,440 y BP. Transient climate model simulations indicate that regional cooling was driven by changes in summer insolation and Northern Hemisphere volcanism. The initial cooling event was followed centuries later (c. 5,100 y BP) by sustained Icelandic volcanic eruptions that forced a centennial-scale 1.0 °C summer cooling anomaly and led to rapid ice-patch growth and preservation of the trees. With recent warming (c. 2000–2020 CE), warm-season temperatures now equal and will soon exceed those of the mid-Holocene period of high tree line. It is likely that perennial ice cover will again disappear from the region, and tree line may expand upslope so long as plant-available moisture and disturbance are not limiting. ...ice patches are distributed from near-modern tree line to the highest elevations, and radiocarbon dating of organic matter from ice cores and remnant wood collected at numerous ice-patch locations indicate that some initiated growth and persisted during the early- to mid-Holocene warm period (10,500–6,000 y BP) 

More simply put, temperatures and climate conditions suitable for high elevation tree growth were present 5-6 thousand years ago when approximately only 10-15 million humans existed on the entire planet. The exact number is subject to debate and variation, but that's the general range, and there was of course no industry, no use of carbon fuels beyond burning wood for heat and cooking purposes, and there simply weren't enough humans on the planet, especially in the Rocky Mountains, to have any impact on the climate at all.

So if that warmer period of time occurred, and the evidence is that it did since the formerly-buried trees are there, and at present they can't grow there as it isn't warm enough we are forced to conclude that the claim that the current climate and temperature is "unprecedented" is a LIE.

DINOSAURS Anyone ?

And since we did not, obviously, cause it then because it was simply impossible for us to do so, the claim that we are causing it now is false since that claim rests on the premise, repeated since the so-called "Global Warming" theory was first run, that it has never occurred in the history of the planet when humans have walked upon it.

In other words, we are being lied to by those who have an agenda and/or a profit motive.

I simply do not believe that humanity is as significant as we would like to believe. special perhaps but hardly the center of the universe.

Not to stir the pot, but I still think Monty Python had it right…

The Galaxy Song from “The Meaning of Life” 1983

Whenever life gets you down, Mrs. Brown,
And things seem hard or tough,
And people are silly, obnoxious or daft,
And you feel that you've had quite enough,

Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving
And revolving at 900 miles an hour.
It's orbiting at 19 miles a second, so it's reckoned,
The sun that is the source of all our power.
Now the sun, and you and me, and all the stars that we can see,
Are moving at a million miles a day,
In the outer spiral arm, at 40,000 miles an hour,
Of a galaxy we call the Milky Way.

Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars;
It's a hundred thousand light-years side to side;
It bulges in the middle sixteen thousand light-years thick,
But out by us it's just three thousand light-years wide.
We're thirty thousand light-years from Galactic Central Point,
We go 'round every two hundred million years;
And our galaxy itself is one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding universe.

Our universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding,
In all of the directions it can whiz;
As fast as it can go, at the speed of light, you know,
Twelve million miles a minute and that's the fastest speed there is.
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth;
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth!